Comments for vast unmeasured boundless free http://wkshank.wordpress.com living life in the deep love of Christ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:51:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on maybe UNDER the table is more accurate by Sunday Hymn – Not Worthy, Lord « Random, and Proud of It http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/maybe-under-the-table-is-more-accurate/#comment-36 Sunday Hymn – Not Worthy, Lord « Random, and Proud of It Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:51:02 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-36 [...] worthy, Lord! to gather up the crumbs With trembling hand that from thy table fall, A weary, heavy-laden sinner comes To plead thy [...] [...] worthy, Lord! to gather up the crumbs With trembling hand that from thy table fall, A weary, heavy-laden sinner comes To plead thy [...]

]]> Comment on About the blogger by Ellen Mast http://wkshank.wordpress.com/about-the-blogger/#comment-35 Ellen Mast Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:36:04 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?page_id=20#comment-35 Can't remember how I stumbled onto your website, Wendy, but just checked out your book list. Am reading The Infidel. I'm in a book club in Waxhaw, a relatively recent thing for me, which used to sound boring to me, but has been one of the richest experiences I've had for sheer fun and getting to know other women. We recently did The Glass Castle, by Jeanette Walls, and ALL absolutely loved it. Great discussion. Can’t remember how I stumbled onto your website, Wendy, but just checked out your book list. Am reading The Infidel. I’m in a book club in Waxhaw, a relatively recent thing for me, which used to sound boring to me, but has been one of the richest experiences I’ve had for sheer fun and getting to know other women. We recently did The Glass Castle, by Jeanette Walls, and ALL absolutely loved it. Great discussion.

]]> Comment on The last first day. by Julie Shank http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-last-first-day/#comment-34 Julie Shank Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:09:04 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=246#comment-34 Hey Wendy, So, last night I was having a low parenting moment and feeling completely overwhelmed with the thought of adding another child to our too often chaotic family life. The house was trashed...legos all over the floor, couch cushions barricading the stairs to keep out the bad guys, superhero costumes flung wherever they happened to land, and me, feeling pregnantly exhausted. So, I went up to bed. Jeff came up about 10 minutes later and said I needed to read something before I went to sleep. I wasn't very happy about having one more thing that I needed to do before I went to sleep. But several minutes later, with tears streaming down my cheeks, I was indeed grateful that he had 'disturbed' me. So, thanks. Thanks for the beautiful reflection on parenting. Even though I'm at such a different stage in this journey, I know in my gut that it all passes so quickly. Your words were a timely reminder and good medicine for my weary soul. Jul And hey! You're a great writer! Hey Wendy,
So, last night I was having a low parenting moment and feeling completely overwhelmed with the thought of adding another child to our too often chaotic family life. The house was trashed…legos all over the floor, couch cushions barricading the stairs to keep out the bad guys, superhero costumes flung wherever they happened to land, and me, feeling pregnantly exhausted. So, I went up to bed. Jeff came up about 10 minutes later and said I needed to read something before I went to sleep. I wasn’t very happy about having one more thing that I needed to do before I went to sleep. But several minutes later, with tears streaming down my cheeks, I was indeed grateful that he had ‘disturbed’ me.
So, thanks. Thanks for the beautiful reflection on parenting. Even though I’m at such a different stage in this journey, I know in my gut that it all passes so quickly. Your words were a timely reminder and good medicine for my weary soul.
Jul
And hey! You’re a great writer!

]]> Comment on The last first day. by Kelly B http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-last-first-day/#comment-33 Kelly B Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:20:54 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=246#comment-33 Thanks Wendy! I will be sure to think of your words if I'm ever having a hard day with Luke. And I will go hug and kiss and snuggle with him...when he wakes up from his nap of course! May I make to most of every moment! Thanks Wendy! I will be sure to think of your words if I’m ever having a hard day with Luke. And I will go hug and kiss and snuggle with him…when he wakes up from his nap of course! May I make to most of every moment!

]]> Comment on The last first day. by wkshank http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-last-first-day/#comment-32 wkshank Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:20:18 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=246#comment-32 Thanks, Mandy! And here are some comments from friends not quite brave enough to post comments on the blog: "A mother's heart...how many breathless moments there are to ponder." "maybe this is why I feel sad and no direction today..." "Been there...done that! Brings back those memories. Praise the Lord that the kids walk with HIM and He's not done with any of us yet...drawing us ever closer through the disappointments and pain of life to a knowledge that He truly is ENOUGH." "I had those same feelings yesterday as [my son] went off to school for his first, last day. Did I say that right? Thanks for your encouraging words and a reminder that this is what we have raised them for...to go out into this world and be a light in this dark world." Thanks, Mandy! And here are some comments from friends not quite brave enough to post comments on the blog:

“A mother’s heart…how many breathless moments there are to ponder.”

“maybe this is why I feel sad and no direction today…”

“Been there…done that! Brings back those memories. Praise the Lord that the kids walk with HIM and He’s not done with any of us yet…drawing us ever closer through the disappointments and pain of life to a knowledge that He truly is ENOUGH.”

“I had those same feelings yesterday as [my son] went off to school for his first, last day. Did I say that right? Thanks for your encouraging words and a reminder that this is what we have raised them for…to go out into this world and be a light in this dark world.”

]]> Comment on The last first day. by Mandy B http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-last-first-day/#comment-31 Mandy B Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:17:46 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=246#comment-31 Oh my word, I'm in tears. I looked up from reading your blog (already crying) and noticed Macey rocking back and forth, about to crawl, for the first time...tears poured down my cheeks even harder! Time flies, huh?! So exciting to hear about you guys. I love to read your blog-you have such a gift! Oh my word, I’m in tears. I looked up from reading your blog (already crying) and noticed Macey rocking back and forth, about to crawl, for the first time…tears poured down my cheeks even harder! Time flies, huh?! So exciting to hear about you guys. I love to read your blog-you have such a gift!

]]> Comment on Is behavior modification helpful for the Christian? by wkshank http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/is-behavior-modification-helpful-for-the-christian/#comment-25 wkshank Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:17:12 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=231#comment-25 Must admit I had to look up the word "nouthetic." Yay! A new word for me! And what a wise concept. As I mentioned in the post, I do like Adams' approach, and want to read more. Certainly I would drink up any training in how to help people in trouble by using the powerful words God has already provided in scripture. I'll talk to Larry about it. Definitely interested in reading the book with you! I am sure, as wise as MacArthur is, that he would concede that all of us use behavior modification techniques all the time (probably just instinctively), to the benefit of families, schools, societies. It's not an either/or proposition: outward behavior control, or inward transformation? Yes, and yes. The former is a mere shadow of the latter, and very temporary, but sometimes necessary as the latter takes root and bears real fruit--"fruit that will last." Thanks for the affirmation of our boys. When people say things like "you must be proud of your boys," I say "I am grateful for my boys; I am proud of GOD because of what He has done in them." My behavior techniques were pitiful compared to his powerful Spirit! p.s. I completely understand the restaurant fatigue. Thankfully, that condition disappears quickly once you're back to "normal" life! After 21 days on the road in Europe, I still want to go out to eat on Friday night. Must admit I had to look up the word “nouthetic.” Yay! A new word for me! And what a wise concept. As I mentioned in the post, I do like Adams’ approach, and want to read more. Certainly I would drink up any training in how to help people in trouble by using the powerful words God has already provided in scripture. I’ll talk to Larry about it. Definitely interested in reading the book with you!

I am sure, as wise as MacArthur is, that he would concede that all of us use behavior modification techniques all the time (probably just instinctively), to the benefit of families, schools, societies. It’s not an either/or proposition: outward behavior control, or inward transformation? Yes, and yes. The former is a mere shadow of the latter, and very temporary, but sometimes necessary as the latter takes root and bears real fruit–”fruit that will last.”

Thanks for the affirmation of our boys. When people say things like “you must be proud of your boys,” I say “I am grateful for my boys; I am proud of GOD because of what He has done in them.” My behavior techniques were pitiful compared to his powerful Spirit!

p.s. I completely understand the restaurant fatigue. Thankfully, that condition disappears quickly once you’re back to “normal” life! After 21 days on the road in Europe, I still want to go out to eat on Friday night.

]]> Comment on Is behavior modification helpful for the Christian? by myopinionandidohaveone http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/is-behavior-modification-helpful-for-the-christian/#comment-23 myopinionandidohaveone Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:00:06 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=231#comment-23 o h m y is STILL all I have to say. Well, ok, that is a lie. I can say a whole bunch more. This is, however, much more “vacation” thinking than I was prepared to do! Thank you though, for such a thoughtful response. I have long desired meaningful conversation via the blogosphere and you have indeed provided. My initial blog on this topic, New Meaning for the Term Dr. Mom, is the product of newfound enlightenment. As I study for the Nouthetic Counselor Certification exam, “Counseling,” by John MacArthur has addressed this issue meticulously. The questions I posed in response to your comments are questions I myself had grappled with; I too had questioned the significance of behavior modification. The simple answer to your question, “is there no usefulness at all in studying (and sometimes applying) the findings of experts and writers in psychology and human behavior, if they aren’t starting with a biblical view of man?” quite possibly may be found in the following statement... “Why should believers choose to do behavior modification when we have the tools for spiritual transformation (like a surgeon wreaking havoc with a butter knife instead of using a scalpel)?” (John MacAruthur) But that response is unfair in comparison to your well articulated blog (not to mention your years of practicing the principles you express!—look at those wonderful boys!) So may I ask you to excuse this over simplified answer and invite you to trek with me as I continue to review? Perhaps we can read the book together?? Better yet, will you and Larry consider attending the NANC Conference with Bob and I in October (in Spartanburg?) Perhaps this is the arena some answers might be found since it is where the debate began (we ARE late). I’m sure that once I recover from visiting with 50 of my closest friends and family at 17 restaurants over the past 12 days I will have more brain cells to respond in detail….just didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you….(and yes, eating out gets old) o h m y

is STILL all I have to say. Well, ok, that is a lie. I can say a whole bunch more. This is, however, much more “vacation” thinking than I was prepared to do!

Thank you though, for such a thoughtful response. I have long desired meaningful conversation via the blogosphere and you have indeed provided.

My initial blog on this topic, New Meaning for the Term Dr. Mom, is the product of newfound enlightenment. As I study for the Nouthetic Counselor Certification exam, “Counseling,” by John MacArthur has addressed this issue meticulously. The questions I posed in response to your comments are questions I myself had grappled with; I too had questioned the significance of behavior modification.

The simple answer to your question, “is there no usefulness at all in studying (and sometimes applying) the findings of experts and writers in psychology and human behavior, if they aren’t starting with a biblical view of man?” quite possibly may be found in the following statement…

“Why should believers choose to do behavior modification when we have the tools for spiritual transformation (like a surgeon wreaking havoc with a butter knife instead of using a scalpel)?” (John MacAruthur)

But that response is unfair in comparison to your well articulated blog (not to mention your years of practicing the principles you express!—look at those wonderful boys!)

So may I ask you to excuse this over simplified answer and invite you to trek with me as I continue to review? Perhaps we can read the book together?? Better yet, will you and Larry consider attending the NANC Conference with Bob and I in October (in Spartanburg?) Perhaps this is the arena some answers might be found since it is where the debate began (we ARE late).

I’m sure that once I recover from visiting with 50 of my closest friends and family at 17 restaurants over the past 12 days I will have more brain cells to respond in detail….just didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you….(and yes, eating out gets old)

]]> Comment on Finally, a PROPER anniversary trip. Part 1. by wkshank http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/07/18/finally-a-proper-anniversary-trip-part-1/#comment-21 wkshank Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:53:15 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=206#comment-21 Likewise, Mark! And I still can't believe you would recognize me from my avatar. Good eyes, or good memory, or both. When people ask for highlights of my trip, worshiping at All Souls always makes the top three. I'll be writing about that a couple posts from now. Likewise, Mark! And I still can’t believe you would recognize me from my avatar. Good eyes, or good memory, or both.
When people ask for highlights of my trip, worshiping at All Souls always makes the top three. I’ll be writing about that a couple posts from now.

]]> Comment on Finally, a PROPER anniversary trip. Part 1. by markmeynell http://wkshank.wordpress.com/2009/07/18/finally-a-proper-anniversary-trip-part-1/#comment-20 markmeynell Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:16:03 +0000 http://wkshank.wordpress.com/?p=206#comment-20 Great to meet you at All Souls the other day!! Great to meet you at All Souls the other day!!

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